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If you鈥檙e someone who has ever cast a ballot in any election, this is going to absolutely shock you.

With credit to frequent Dori Monson Show news source and citizen journalist Katie Daviscourt, we need to direct you to a she broke in ThePostMillennial.com.

Daviscourt shares video of a Nov. 13, 2021, training session for King County elections review panelists. In it, the trainer/elections official uses an example from ballot reviews on Nov. 2, 2021. Shown on the screen was an apparent page profiling Seattle mayoral candidate Lorena Gonzalez (D).

According to the official, it was included in an envelope with a missing ballot. Near the bottom of this ripped-out page, there was a mark that can be construed as a checkmark or an inverted V. However, since this attempt-at-a-ballot did not have Gonzalez鈥� name circled, the official reported, the vote was not counted.

This example prompted one of the trainees to ask the King County Elections official about a separate scenario.

鈥淪o, even if someone took a napkin and wrote the office, the race, and their selection, that would be enough?鈥� the trainee questioned.

The official鈥檚 response: 鈥淭hat would be enough, and we would count that as a vote.鈥�

The verdict, according to this elections official: You can vote on a napkin in King County.

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Mail-in balloting leads to these kinds of irregularities, Dori believes. Before mail-in balloting, this never would have happened, he adds. Voters would have gone to an assigned location, signed their name where an official would confirm that you were not only registered to vote, but that your Election Day signature matched your voter registration.

Listeners responding to the 成人X站 Radio text line were appalled. Here is what a few of them had to say:

From the 425: 鈥淲hen I fill out a ballot, if I don鈥檛 fill in those little circles exactly as instructed, the ballot is thrown out, so how do you do that with a napkin?鈥�

From the 206: 鈥淣o napkins. They鈥檙e filling up our landfills.鈥�

From the 425: 鈥淰oting on a napkin is RIDICULOUS! How will they verify? And how will they prevent someone voting twice or more? 鈥� I have recently moved out of WA to ID (I鈥檒l let you guess why). I voted in person. It was great.鈥�

From the 425: 鈥淪houldn鈥檛 you have to vote on a sanitary napkin to insure clean elections in Washington?鈥�

From Steve at Northgate: 鈥淚t鈥檚 not who votes that counts; it鈥檚 who counts the votes that counts.鈥�

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UPDATE, 11/17:聽

Many Tuesday listeners to our show were as shocked as I was to watch a recent video from a King County Elections Canvassing Board training officer talk about what makes a legitimate, countable ballot in our area.

Napkin and scrap-paper voting sounds not only cavalier, but downright sketchy to me 鈥� so I reached out to outgoing Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, who oversees elections for all 39 counties in the state to explain why this is allowed.

Always gracious and available to the show, Wyman came on to explain not only why this is a real thing 鈥� but also shared some specific details about what I call King County鈥檚 鈥渇uzzy numbers鈥� from 2004, ultimately flipping that year鈥檚 outcome from Republican Dino Rossi to Democrat Christine Gregoire for Washington state governor.

For starters, Wyman tells us, the napkin voting scenarios 鈥� while not specifically 鈥� have been approved by Washington state. It is the state鈥檚 interpretation of what the voter means.

鈥淚f you can determine or discern the voter鈥檚 intent, you may count the ballot,鈥� Wyman explained.

But it was Wyman鈥檚 insights into the 2004 gubernatorial ballot-counting fiasco that added even greater depth to our interview.

She reminded me that as Thurston County auditor in 2004, she vividly recalls a kind of King County elections office culture of 鈥渃lose-enough-was-good-enough.鈥� As a result, as long as the tallies came out 鈥減lus or minus 3, it was considered balanced.鈥�

With anywhere from 1,000 to 2,000 poll books in King County to reconcile, she continues, that 鈥減lus-or-minus-3鈥� became 鈥減roblematic.鈥�

When I again pressed her about whether she believes the Gregoire/Rossi race was stolen from the Republicans, she told me and my listeners: 鈥淚 have no doubt that no one can actually prove it or disprove it. I think it was a complete lack of accountability and ability to defend the election all these years later.鈥�

Today, she says, King County鈥檚 process, which is like 鈥渁 bank with checks and balances,鈥� has evolved into something 鈥済ood and positive 鈥� but that stigma is always going to be there.鈥�

Before I let her go, I asked Wyman about why 鈥� as the only Republican elected to a statewide office on the West Coast in 2020 鈥� she was leaving the secretary of state鈥檚 office for a new job in Washington, D.C. Starting Monday, Wyman is expected to become the new election security lead for the Department of Homeland Security鈥檚 Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

鈥淚鈥檓 sorry I鈥檓 not completing my term. That鈥檚 the hardest decision on this job offer, … but it truly is, Dori, a call to duty.鈥� Wyman told me, as she began to choke up. 鈥淚t was service that brought me to Washington 30 years ago and it鈥檚 service that is taking me away. I鈥檓 sorry. I didn鈥檛 want to get teary on your show.鈥�

鈥淒on鈥檛 feel bad,鈥� I reassured her. 鈥淚 can make even the most toughened person cry.鈥�

鈥淚 know 鈥� but you cry, too, you鈥檙e a weeper, too, so I鈥檓 OK.鈥�

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