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From cleanup efforts to portable toilets, the City of Seattle has gone back and forth on what to do with the “Jungle” and its residents.

Some argue if the nearly 300 people living in the Jungle are pushed out, they will have no place to go.

Related: Who is living in Seattle’s Jungle

鈥淭ime out!鈥� Ron Upshaw shouted on 成人X站 Radio鈥檚 Ron and Don Show.

鈥淵ou don鈥檛 have to give them a place to go. I鈥檓 tired of that,鈥� he said.

Ron and Don were discussing the issue of cleaning up the Jungle with 成人X站 Radio reporter Josh Kerns when Ron couldn鈥檛 go any further 鈥� he had to get something off of his chest.

鈥淓verybody stop and think about this for a minute,鈥� Ron said. 鈥淲e have to give them resources? We have to give them a place to go? Really?! Do I have to give every junkie in the state of Washington a place to go? Is that my responsibility because I happen to own property in Seattle and I pay taxes?鈥�

鈥淗ow about some people step up and say, 鈥業 have to take responsibility for my life, my loved one, my neighbor, or my son or daughter, sister brother.鈥� And help them get out of this situation,鈥� he said. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 have to do that, or help them pick up their needles or feces. We don鈥檛 have to do that.鈥�

Don is quick to point out that he has resorted to calling some people camping around Seattle just that, 鈥渃ampers.鈥� He does it to note the difference between those experiencing homelessness and people who aren鈥檛.

鈥淚t鈥檚 hard for all these people who are out there that are truly homeless,鈥� Don said. 鈥淭hat鈥檚 why I call them campers, not homeless because some have homes to go to.鈥�

鈥淚f they went to those homes or facilities they would have to obey the rules,鈥� he said. 鈥淭here are rooms and facilities tonight that are available for people in this campground (the Jungle). They don鈥檛 want to go because they don鈥檛 want to be held accountable. They are not truly homeless, they are just campers.”

Ron believes that Seattle is unique in that it is enabling homelessness rather than act to do something about it.

Related: Seattle City Council member thinks Jungle needs new name

鈥淲e have been force-fed this for so long that now nobody even questions that,鈥� he said. 鈥淓very city in America is not doing this. We are. We鈥檝e brainwashed ourselves into thinking that it鈥檚 a human right that if I鈥檓 unemployed and homeless that society should give me everything 鈥� a place to live, three meals a day, they pick up my trash for free, do my laundry, and I get all these services and a case worker. That鈥檚 not how everybody does it.鈥�

鈥淭hat came across as harsh or heartless; I have compassion for people down on their luck 鈥� I want them to get to a stable point in their life,鈥� Ron said. 鈥淲hat we are doing now is enabling it to go on. We鈥檙e not helping anybody transition out of that 鈥� if we are going to do resources the goal should be to transition them out of a tent and into stable living. But to say that we owe them, that it鈥檚 their right to get handed everything — I disagree with that premise. It drives me crazy.鈥�